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Union Dues while on LWOP

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    Union Dues while on LWOP

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    First of all I was injured on the job (BOP). Was out for 3.5 months. After my 45 days COP I was placed on LWOP for 4 pay periods so no paycheck from the BOP. During this time I was dropped from the union and subsequestially reinstated. I was then informed by the Treasure that I needed to pay the union my dues that I missed paying while on LWOP. My question is this........Do I have to pay this?? Keep in mind that I am/was under no investigations or the like. Another questions is this..... If I am required to pay my dues, do the members that are active military have to do the same???? Does an individual deployed on military leave for say 18 months (40 pay periods) have to pay the union $800 on his return???? If not, then why whould I have to? Now don't get me wrong, I believe in the Union. But one group (injured on the job) should be treated like the other (military). If they (military) are required to pay then I have no problem paying mine. Fair and equatable. Please advise.

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    Re: Union Dues while on LWOP

    Did you ask why? I've not heard of this, I don't know much about the specific situation but I don't understand why you would have to, are they hard up for money, as soon as you got paid it started up again right?
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    Re: Union Dues while on LWOP

    I'd quit the union immediately. That's too petty for me.

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    Re: Union Dues while on LWOP

    The answer is "NO."
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    Re: Union Dues while on LWOP

    It took me a minute to get over the fact you're comparing being injured to deploying to a combat zone to defend the nation. Once I managed to get past that the answer is pretty simple- the union needs money and didn't stop working for you when you were on LWOP. They feel that since they were doing work for you during this time they should keep getting paid. Of course, they're wrong... but I'm far from a union guy so even if they weren't wrong I'd probably think they were.

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    Re: Union Dues while on LWOP

    Quote Originally Posted by Echo_Four View Post
    It took me a minute to get over the fact you're comparing being injured to deploying to a combat zone to defend the nation. Once I managed to get past that the answer is pretty simple- the union needs money and didn't stop working for you when you were on LWOP. They feel that since they were doing work for you during this time they should keep getting paid. Of course, they're wrong... but I'm far from a union guy so even if they weren't wrong I'd probably think they were.
    I don't think the OP was being disrespectful to deployed troops. I think he was simply making a comparison that the two groups of staff are on LWOP. And like it was said above, the answer is no. To the OP, no one can take money out of your check but you. I would tell the union people requesting the money to go **** themselves. And this is coming from a union guy.
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